tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post7448353419662360488..comments2023-11-02T10:50:42.128-05:00Comments on CLOSED: Is the Episcopal Church protesting Anglican "border crossings" while setting up to do the same thing?TLF+http://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-86869837500390498042009-05-24T12:46:59.728-05:002009-05-24T12:46:59.728-05:00No, anonymous, the position that we've ALL fritter...No, anonymous, the position that we've ALL frittered away in the Anglican Communion is called "bonds of affection." That's the net loss, no matter who we support on this or that issue or behavior.<br /><br />There has been much impatience, declaration of "emergency", refusal to listen... on and on. Innovations, border crossings, breaking of fellowship, giving people authority not given in our canons... I could type examples for days from both "sides."<br /><br />As I've quoted again and again from I Corinthians 6, we are <I> all </I> losers, spiritually, in what is going on. This or that group will meet its perceived needs. But the body of Christ is broken again. <br /><br />I've also written in other places that we have good things to share with African Christians, just as they have good things to share with us. I have no fantasy about African sociopolitics as perfect or superior. <br /><br />But I do admire their churches. They practice a costly fidelity under pressures we fail to acknowledge, and which some of our actions have exacerbated. We say much about "dialogue" be we are not good at listening. A bit of humility and restraint on our part might have gone a long way.<br /><br />But now we are doing "post-mortem". The fragmentation is real and any of us who claim to be above it and can't see some way in which we've contributed are hard hearted fools.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-87270793232923471072009-05-24T08:28:19.709-05:002009-05-24T08:28:19.709-05:00But the point is...If TEC does this, it's bad (as ...But the point is...If TEC does this, it's bad (as you believe everything TEC does is, but are loath to admit) but is an African Bishop does this it's good (because everything they do, such as polygamy, sexism, etc is good as you proclaim over and over). Are you even aware of what a hypocrite is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-56516986954208720412009-05-23T22:16:33.441-05:002009-05-23T22:16:33.441-05:00Hi, David+. I found myself quite unemotional - me...Hi, David+. I found myself quite unemotional - mellow, even - while posting this. I think the facts speak for themselves. Ezekiel 2 & 3 came up in the Morning lessons last week. We need to sound the warning, whether or not the people choose to respond.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-48392456967752179392009-05-23T21:40:51.617-05:002009-05-23T21:40:51.617-05:00Hmmm. So much for displaying a mellower attitude ...Hmmm. So much for displaying a mellower attitude toward our foes in TEC. (Just teasing).<br /><br />Actually, I think occasional venting of anger and frustration is appropriate, given the shameless and inexcusable way our denominational leaders have betrayed the sacred trust that is in their care, by utterly perverting the gospel, and engaging in all sorts of treachery and hypocrisy.<br /><br />I have no respect for the Presiding Bishop. Zip. Zilch. None. And I'm glad you and Kathryn/Anglicat are doing your part in exposing some of her wicked ways.<br /><br />After all, as Ecclesiastes 3 says, "There is a time for everything." There is a time for being mellow and conciliatory, and a time for righteous indignation and downright inflammatory words too.David Handy+noreply@blogger.com