tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post6828033463028268846..comments2023-11-02T10:50:42.128-05:00Comments on CLOSED: "...a gap is opened in the ranks..."TLF+http://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-65784065044681419642010-03-14T15:23:46.972-06:002010-03-14T15:23:46.972-06:00JP II may have been a significant ecumenical force...JP II may have been a significant ecumenical force, but, you have heard the old conundrum about what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? JP II, and Benedict even more so, may be *nearly* irresistible but...<br /><br />Susan Peterson<br />(sort of tweaking Alice here, in a friendly way, I hope.)eulogoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05307036781446427993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-82764567769567733932010-03-14T14:58:16.040-06:002010-03-14T14:58:16.040-06:00Thanks, Susan! That is worth checking and that mi...Thanks, Susan! That is worth checking and that might well be the case. JPII was a significant ecumenical force, so it will be interesting to find out which group(s) were part of the liturgy and which were observers.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-87743675435060396502010-03-14T12:59:32.785-06:002010-03-14T12:59:32.785-06:00TLF, I think those would have been Eastern Cathol...TLF, I think those would have been Eastern Catholic rites...by Hierarchs of various Eastern Catholic Rites, aka sui juris Churches in communion with Rome. <br /><br /> Someone correct me if I am wrong, but while the Orthodox might have come as observers, I don't believe that they would participate in a Catholic funeral. <br /><br />Susan Petersoneulogoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05307036781446427993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-28925138174416575862010-03-14T05:37:29.729-06:002010-03-14T05:37:29.729-06:00Alice, thanks for your comment. I was moved by th...Alice, thanks for your comment. I was moved by the Orthodox rites around the coffin of John Paul II, which were given a prominent place in his burial liturgy.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-90866670259958631582010-03-13T19:07:44.708-06:002010-03-13T19:07:44.708-06:00Orthodox Christians certainly affirm Gregory's...Orthodox Christians certainly affirm Gregory's comments on Ezekiel. We also pray for healing of the Great Schism from which all subsequent schisms derive impetus.Alice C. Linsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069827354696169270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-59891239289408891392010-03-11T18:34:43.331-06:002010-03-11T18:34:43.331-06:00Susan aka eulogos - honored to have you post here!...Susan aka eulogos - honored to have you post here!<br /><br />I think that any form of Christian disunity would strike Gregory as a lack of love, or as he says in the quote, "a sin of discord." He was a Benedictine through and through, and stable life in Christian community meant a great deal to him.<br /><br />But I wonder if organic unity with the Pope would loom larger than caritas for Gregory. He cut his ecumenical chops as an ambassador to the Byzantine church. His advice to Augustine of Canterbury was, "If you find Anglo-Saxon church customs that don't line up well with our Roman ways, leave them alone unless they clearly distort the Gospel" (very much an echo of Benedict who, after laying out an elaborate schedule for reciting Psalms, said "But if somebody comes up with something that works better, by all means use it.") No less than <i> Calvin </i> praised Gregory as "the last good Pope" for his collegial views of episcopacy and papal authority.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-80214615567335800792010-03-11T15:54:04.931-06:002010-03-11T15:54:04.931-06:00I see your comment feed says I arrived from Columb...I see your comment feed says I arrived from Columbia, Maryland. That must be where SSA's server is. But I am in New York State. <br /><br />Love the snowy picture in your masthead! <br /><br />Although no one can speak against charity, which as St. Paul says, is the greatest of the theological virtues, I have to say, without meaning to be offensive, that POPE ST. Gregory, would say that failure to be in communion with the Bishop of Rome is TEC's major problem. He'd probably even tie the two together, as the theological virtue of charity is the love of the truth, and leads to the love of the brethren in eucharistic communion. <br /><br />Susan Petersoneulogoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05307036781446427993noreply@blogger.com