tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post4626661139450136983..comments2023-11-02T10:50:42.128-05:00Comments on CLOSED: The Agony of the Episcopal ChurchTLF+http://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-84950998057814540252007-10-15T12:08:00.000-05:002007-10-15T12:08:00.000-05:00CP - We'll forget about it as soon as 100% of the ...CP - We'll forget about it as soon as 100% of the House of Bishops and the Episcopal Church through its General Convention complies with the requests of the Primates of the Anglican Communion, as soon as the Presiding Bishop renounces her prior statements about Christ NOT being the only path to God, as soon as Gene Robinson renounces his Episcopate, as soon as....<BR/><BR/>The extreme "left" of this church isn't relenting one bit. Case in point: Read Gene Robinsons latest letter to the "GLBT" community. Read Creighton's post-HOB communication. Read Creightons' latest rant against members of the AAC.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure there are many out there who would like us to forget about it and get on with the mission of the church....so they can go on remaking God and His Church in their own image.<BR/><BR/>You would think that by their actions, the entire mission of the church is GLBT rights, MDG's, a denial of the virgin birth, denial of the ascention, denial of the cross, etc.<BR/><BR/>No...I'm not going to forget about it anytime soon. Force Fields are UP until the barrage against the faith discontinues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-12909140138705972652007-10-15T09:50:00.000-05:002007-10-15T09:50:00.000-05:00RE "Because, just maybe, many of us are sick of he...RE "Because, just maybe, many of us are sick of hearing about this stuff and want to get to our call?"<BR/><BR/>Really? Well that's cool -- so . . . um . . . why hang out over at this blog if you are just "sick of hearing about this stuff" . . . ; > )<BR/><BR/>Of course, gay activists aren't "sick of hearing about this stuff" when they're trying to push forward their agenda. In fact, their "call" is actually pushing forward their own beliefs and stances using the official channels of the church. What they're "sick of hearing of" is the *opposition* to their agenda and their goals. <BR/><BR/>That opposition is what's really got to stop in their opinion . . . so that they can continue moving forward with their "call."<BR/><BR/>Opposition is what they're really sick of hearing. <BR/><BR/>SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-88924663873763573072007-10-14T15:00:00.000-05:002007-10-14T15:00:00.000-05:00CP, I'd be in favor of that as well. Near as I ca...CP, I'd be in favor of that as well. Near as I can tell, that's all that ever happens at GS in SF. So why take so much time to criticize our parish when you never visit it? If we're doing something wrong, I'm sure we'd like our bishop to tell us about it. But preferably, we'd hear about it firsthand, rather than hearing about it in a public announcement about a few folks' letter in a way that tars us all with the same brush. Preaching the gospel sounds great. Taking care of our parishes' own concerns also sounds good, provided it doesn't mean ignoring one another. If it means ignoring one another, one begins to wonder why we have an episcopacy at all, and what happened to the grand legacy of the Elizabethan Settlement and its big-tent notion of orthodoxy. Are conservatives and traditionalists no longer welcome in that tent? The bishop's letter seems to suggest that this is so.<BR/><BR/>As for being sick of hearing this stuff, I assure you that folks at GS in SF are sick of it, too, and have been for a long time. But ignoring it won't make it go away. There's too much at stake, including the legitimacy of those things that have tied us together as Episcopalians, as Anglicans, and as Christians; and anthropology. I'm tired of constant theological squabbles about sex and sexuality, but I do not want to abandon our discussions of what it means to be human, and the two are intimately tied together. <BR/><BR/>The peace of the Lord be with you - and with the concerns of your parish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-90963479945891514832007-10-13T15:08:00.000-05:002007-10-13T15:08:00.000-05:00Maybe he'd rather see the Gospel and our parishes'...Maybe he'd rather see the Gospel and our parishes' own concerns considered from our pulpits instead? Because, just maybe, many of us are sick of hearing about this stuff and want to get to our call?<BR/><BR/>Sounds like a good plan to me.cphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13163860831438587167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-50714663823905102242007-10-12T20:55:00.000-05:002007-10-12T20:55:00.000-05:00Have you seen +Creighton's letter today on the SD ...Have you seen +Creighton's letter today on the SD diocesan website? He has some pretty strongly worded criticisms of Good Shepherd. It looks like he's calling at least some people at Good Shepherd dishonest, duplicitous, small-minded and power-hungry.<BR/><BR/>I guess it's good to see a bishop actually standing for something, and so acting -- to some degree -- like a shepherd.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand: Does he ever visit Good Shepherd? He says he's writing a letter that will address these concerns and that "can be made available" but may not be read from the pulpit. Why is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-54068762391029054852007-10-12T18:10:00.000-05:002007-10-12T18:10:00.000-05:00PS. Love the Pheasant pic up top....plan to shoot...PS. Love the Pheasant pic up top....plan to shoot a gob of them this fall. Surely one of God's blessings for those living in this beautiful state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-25543856326812523922007-10-12T18:08:00.000-05:002007-10-12T18:08:00.000-05:00I saw the communication sent in the diocese of upp...I saw the communication sent in the diocese of upper michigan that went out this week. It has been posted all over the net. It had to be one of the most shocking things I have ever read coming out of what some might think is still a Christian church. And, there is so much stuff like this out there that those without internet access have no idea what is REALLY going on in their church, and how bad it has become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com