tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post3325181947487696805..comments2023-11-02T10:50:42.128-05:00Comments on CLOSED: What the church hides from the people at bishop election timeTLF+http://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-41943363770781459392008-08-03T18:51:00.000-05:002008-08-03T18:51:00.000-05:00Okie Dokie -Sorry, I've been gone all weekend to t...Okie Dokie -<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I've been gone all weekend to the CCA campout.<BR/><BR/>I am working on an e-mail link for Montana Anglican but it's not working yet.<BR/><BR/>MT AnglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-71162362706788828512008-08-01T09:11:00.000-05:002008-08-01T09:11:00.000-05:00Good points, MT... the Pastoral Letters of the NT ...Good points, MT... the Pastoral Letters of the NT warn against ordaining "recent converts" and "hastily laying on hands", while requiring that candidates "be tested."<BR/><BR/>BTW, email me (I don't seem to have an email for you). We have a creative idea here that I want to share with you.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-16187520069038860282008-08-01T08:55:00.000-05:002008-08-01T08:55:00.000-05:00TLF+:It's actually quite an interesting phenomena ...TLF+:<BR/><BR/>It's actually quite an interesting phenomena coming from an evangelical background because you have the opposite extreme. A Baptist church, for example, will choose a person they deem 'Godly' as a pastor without any other qualification. This often leads to disaster because this man might be called to lead people, but he doesn't have the Spiritual maturity or the education to do it well or consistently. I've seen so many churches be severely damaged by such leadership.<BR/><BR/>One of the strengths of the Anglican church is that it avoids that by education and training - but then, we have this opposite problem - where someone might be trained and educated but doesn't really have a calling to be a priest (or a bishop)... has the tools but not the gifting.. or character.<BR/><BR/>However, you are right on target - once again bringing it back to the Biblical mandate is the cure for each of these errors. Isn't it amazing how much we go through to sidestep what is plainly written out for us?<BR/><BR/>MT AnglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-92115683412753923342008-07-31T10:09:00.000-05:002008-07-31T10:09:00.000-05:00MT - one of the opportunities in the realignment i...MT - one of the opportunities in the realignment is to return to Biblical teaching on the role of clergy (including bishops), spiritual gifts, the church as the body of Christ - a well explored Biblical ecclesiology.<BR/><BR/>You are so right - we elect bishops not even knowing the qualities that God has described for them.TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-9466293975947758632008-07-31T09:12:00.000-05:002008-07-31T09:12:00.000-05:00I would agree with that.I also think that we take ...I would agree with that.<BR/><BR/>I also think that we take the whole bishop selection process rather lightly - I am thinking how my former bishop was elected and how little the congregations really knew about him. <BR/><BR/>He presented himself a certain way - so we voted for him. Rather ridiculous and very little had to do with prayer or truly knowing his character.<BR/><BR/>If we are part of this 'new DNA' that process needs to be seriously revamped.<BR/><BR/>MT AnglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-67039658199838796762008-07-29T18:07:00.000-05:002008-07-29T18:07:00.000-05:00Good thought, Mt. The media likes to keep things ...Good thought, Mt. The media likes to keep things focused on sexuality, but we have alcoholicx, egotists, money-grubbers... all kinds of people revelling in sin and still elected as bishops.<BR/><BR/>The people in the pews are not taught from Scripture. They do not know what qualities to seek and have no sense of honoring God -they seek a candidate who "feels good" or "meets our needs."TLF+https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650010433581488888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-873059253261642303.post-37121661620992172152008-07-29T15:25:00.000-05:002008-07-29T15:25:00.000-05:00Hi Northern Plains:My thought has always been beca...Hi Northern Plains:<BR/><BR/>My thought has always been because Bishop Robinson did not fulfill this part:<BR/><BR/> 7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not <B>selfwilled</B>, <BR/><BR/>He was disqualified by virtue of the fact that he was willing to sacrifice the people of God for his own agenda... even w/o the other issue that should have told anyone on the planet he wasn't bishop material.<BR/><BR/>Mt AnglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com